{"id":1116,"date":"2016-08-01T13:32:31","date_gmt":"2016-08-01T19:32:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/blog\/?p=1116"},"modified":"2016-08-01T14:22:07","modified_gmt":"2016-08-01T20:22:07","slug":"foul-trouble-as-defined-by-players","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kenpom.com\/blog\/foul-trouble-as-defined-by-players\/","title":{"rendered":"Foul trouble as defined by players"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We\u2019ve looked at <a href=\"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/blog\/foul-trouble-as-defined-by-coaches\/\">how coaches define foul trouble<\/a> and got an idea of <a href=\"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/blog\/foul-trouble-data-by-coach\/\">how each active coach deviates from the norm<\/a>. Now it\u2019s time to find out how players define trouble.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going forward under the\u00a0assumption that a player\u2019s effectiveness is more impacted on the defensive end when he has foul trouble. With that as justification, we can look at foul rates to get a hint at when a player feels like he has to play less aggressively on defense.\u00a0Just like we did when\u00a0assessing how coaches define foul trouble, I&#8217;ll group foul rates by players that have X fouls.<\/p>\n<p>To begin with, let\u2019s look at foul rate given a starter\u2019s foul count in the first half only, adjusted for playing time\u2026<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><u>Foul rates since 2010 for starters\u00a0with a given number of personal fouls, <strong>first half only<\/strong><\/u><span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_1');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_1');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_1\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">1<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_1116_1_1\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<pre>PF \u00a0PF\/40 \r\n 0 \u00a02.66\r\n 1 \u00a02.34\r\n 2 \u00a01.71<\/pre>\n<p>It\u2019s pretty clear that the starters\u00a0with two fouls are less willing to commit fouls than their peers who have zero or one fouls. You can get conclusive proof that these players are acting abnormally\u00a0by comparing the foul rates in the second half.<\/p>\n<p><u>Foul rates since 2010 for starters\u00a0with a given number of personal fouls, <strong>second half only<\/strong><\/u><span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_2');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_2');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_2\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">2<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_1116_1_2\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<pre>PF  PF\/40\r\n 0  2.94\r\n 1  3.19\r\n 2  3.28<\/pre>\n<p>After halftime, starters with two fouls commit fouls more frequently than their teammates with zero or one fouls. This makes sense: Players that have accumulated\u00a0more fouls figure to be a bit more foul prone in general. You&#8217;d expect them to have higher foul rates going forward, other circumstances\u00a0being equal.<\/p>\n<p>It also illustrates that the restraint shown by the two-foul players in the first half is even greater than the raw numbers indicate. The two-foul starters\u00a0should have a higher foul rate than the zero- and one-foul players if they were acting normally, but instead their foul rate is 27% less than the one-foul player and 36% less than the starter with zero fouls.<\/p>\n<p>One of the criticisms of benching a player in foul trouble is that that player is unlikely to eventually foul out, so why not play them more? But that\u2019s not exactly the problem to be\u00a0considered. Players have a self-preservation mentality and <a href=\"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/blog\/playbyplay-theater-earliest-disqualification\/\">Davis Rozitis excepted<\/a>, they\u2019ll find ways to avoid disqualification for as long as possible. And these methods aren&#8217;t usually consistent with playing winning basketball in the moment.<\/p>\n<p>But to really see how players define foul trouble we need to see how foul rates (PF per 40 minutes played) evolve minute-by-minute for starters with X fouls. Here you go&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/assets\/foulrate_by_pf.png\" alt=\"Foul rate by PF\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, the behavior of players with X fouls\u00a0mimics\u00a0the tendency\u00a0of coaches to restrict their playing time, whose graph I&#8217;ll reproduce here&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"http:\/\/kenpom.com\/assets\/foultrouble.png\" alt=\"Playing time by foul rate\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The biggest exception that I can see is with starters with one foul in the first half. Coaches don\u2019t pay them much mind, reducing their playing time only slightly early in the half, but treating them the same as if they had zero fouls later in the half. However, throughout the first half\u00a0starters\u00a0with one foul actually foul at a noticeably\u00a0smaller rate than starters\u00a0with zero fouls.<\/p>\n<p>The two-foul starters are even more cautious in the first half. More strikingly, they respect the seemingly-irrational halftime discontinuity established by their coaches. The foul rate of the two-foul starter rapidly increases after halftime &#8211; just as their playing time does.<\/p>\n<p>Three-foul starters play it tentatively\u00a0for roughly the first 10-12\u00a0minutes of the second half, but not as cautiously as two-foul starters are in the first half. Likewise, their playing time is limited for about the first 10-12 minutes of the second half, but not as much as for two-fouls in the first half.<\/p>\n<p>Starters with four fouls are in full-on preservation mode almost until the very end of the game<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_3');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_3');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_3\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">3<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_1116_1_3\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\"><\/span><\/span> and coaches don&#8217;t completely trust them until there are 2-3 minutes remaining.<\/p>\n<p>In summary, there isn\u2019t much difference in how coaches and players define foul trouble. Players are acting the way coaches think they should act. Or maybe players are acting the way they think their coaches expect them to\u00a0act. It can&#8217;t be a total coincidence the two groups&#8217; behavior agree so well.<\/p>\n<p>Coaches would prefer to\u00a0have an aggressive reserve in the game over\u00a0a tentative starter and it&#8217;s possible they have an understanding of when the starter will be tentative. Or maybe players react to how their coach treats them and in the cases where they do see the court with foul trouble, they&#8217;re more determined to validate their coach&#8217;s trust.<\/p>\n<p>If it&#8217;s the latter, it&#8217;s interesting that\u00a0a player\u2019s self-preservation instinct kicks in AFTER he gets into what his coach considers foul trouble. The main exception is the one-foul player in the first half who appears to work a little harder to avoid the bench time\u00a0that comes with picking up number two.<\/p>\n<p>The main argument against sitting players in foul trouble is that players rarely foul out and sitting them is just depriving the best players of playing time. However, you could reframe the debate.\u00a0Instead of maximizing minutes for his best players, a coach&#8217;s job is also to minimize bad minutes. There\u2019s a self-preservation instinct in most players and in situations where that instinct is the strongest, there figures to be a negative impact on the player&#8217;s defense.<\/p>\n<p>Hey, maybe the best coach would train his players to play the same way regardless of their foul count.<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_4');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_1116_1('footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_4');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_4\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">4<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_1116_1_4\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\"><\/span><\/span> If that was accomplished, then we could focus on\u00a0the goal of maximizing minutes. But it seems that players will never be able to ignore the reality that once they get a fifth foul, their playing time is permanently reduced to zero for what could be the most exciting parts of the game.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a big incentive to reduce one&#8217;s foul rate after getting into foul trouble and become a defensive liability.\u00a0While I wouldn&#8217;t side with the most extreme coaches that refuse to play guys in foul trouble, there&#8217;s plenty of evidence to suggest that ignoring foul trouble isn&#8217;t a viable approach, either.<\/p>\n<div class=\"speaker-mute footnotes_reference_container\"> <div class=\"footnote_container_prepare\"><p><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_label pointer\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_1116_1();\">&#x202F;<\/span><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button\" style=\"display: none;\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_1116_1();\">[<a id=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_1116_1\">+<\/a>]<\/span><\/p><\/div> <div id=\"footnote_references_container_1116_1\" style=\"\"><table class=\"footnotes_table footnote-reference-container\"><caption class=\"accessibility\">References<\/caption> <tbody> \r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_1116_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_1');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_1\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">^<\/span>1<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Foul rates computed by averaging foul rate at\u00a0each minute remaining of the first half, excluding the first two minutes when foul rates are extremely low.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_1116_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_2');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_2\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">^<\/span>2<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Same method used as in the first half table, but\u00a0ignoring the last two minutes of the second half when foul rates spike.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_1116_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_3');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_3\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">^<\/span>3<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">I\u2019ve omitted the last minute of play from the players&#8217;\u00a0plot as the rates for all players skyrocket as possession time decreases and strategic fouls come into play.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_1116_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_1116_1_4');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_1116_1_4\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">^<\/span>4<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">It&#8217;s possible Lorenzo Romar has already done this.<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n <\/tbody> <\/table> <\/div><\/div><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> function footnote_expand_reference_container_1116_1() { jQuery('#footnote_references_container_1116_1').show(); jQuery('#footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_1116_1').text('\u2212'); } function footnote_collapse_reference_container_1116_1() { jQuery('#footnote_references_container_1116_1').hide(); jQuery('#footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_1116_1').text('+'); } function footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_1116_1() { if (jQuery('#footnote_references_container_1116_1').is(':hidden')) { footnote_expand_reference_container_1116_1(); } else { footnote_collapse_reference_container_1116_1(); } } function footnote_moveToReference_1116_1(p_str_TargetID) { footnote_expand_reference_container_1116_1(); var l_obj_Target = jQuery('#' + p_str_TargetID); if (l_obj_Target.length) { jQuery( 'html, body' ).delay( 0 ); jQuery('html, body').animate({ scrollTop: l_obj_Target.offset().top - window.innerHeight * 0.2 }, 380); } } function footnote_moveToAnchor_1116_1(p_str_TargetID) { footnote_expand_reference_container_1116_1(); var l_obj_Target = jQuery('#' + p_str_TargetID); if (l_obj_Target.length) { jQuery( 'html, body' ).delay( 0 ); jQuery('html, body').animate({ scrollTop: l_obj_Target.offset().top - window.innerHeight * 0.2 }, 380); } }<\/script>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We\u2019ve looked at how coaches define foul trouble and got an idea of how each active coach deviates from the norm. Now it\u2019s time to find out how players define trouble. I&#8217;m going forward under the\u00a0assumption that a player\u2019s effectiveness is more impacted on the defensive end when he has foul trouble. 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